I'm glad to get your still more "bullish" reactions to Stanford because they bolster my increasingly bullish feeling
(this is stock exchange "bullish," incidentally). My preliminary negotiations revealed the nest egg from Rockefeller
which you refer to, indeed it was one factor in changing my attitude from negative to interested. My concern, like yours,
is with staff improvement within the department -- particularly as it relates to rounded training for graduate students in
my own area. I have never been an enthusiast myself for the "great man" theory of graduate instruction, except in
those rare instances where the individual concerned is truly great. Having no illusions in this respect about myself I would
not want to encourage really good students to come unless there was a strong representative in several fields peripheral to
embryology -- genetics, cytology, biochemistry, biophysics as examples. This I do not at the moment see at Stanford, and this
is why I have indicated to Twitty that the filling of the genetics post is of considerable interest to me. In fact, if I were
at Stanford I think I would argue for a "package" of the two positions. I am not sure that I may not anyway if you
decide against it, i.e. I am satisfied to join you in the package but, if not you, I will want to know who.
Concerning Manny, I am afraid that I am honor bound not
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to be more specific than I have. In general terms, I first heard the story from John Bonner who was severely critical of what
he regarded as failure to properly credit Shaffer in the original draft -- which went to him as referee. I believe he told
me that he suggested to Science that Shaffer be contacted. I do not recall that he told me any of this in confidence, but
perhaps it would be just as well not to discuss his role as referee unless he has no objection.
The situation clearly was nasty and I made a note to discuss it with Manny to get his side at first opportunity. What concerns
me now is that the story is being told beyond Bonner-Raper, by people who do not know the situation first hand, and in versions
which differ from what I heard from Bonner. In short, it is spreading, getting worse in the process, and being told at times
and places which can be damaging. I do not know what can be done, or if anything can be done -- but I thought I would mention
it so that you might decide in terms of the local situation.