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The Oswald T. Avery Collection

Title:
McCarty at NAS 5/15/73 pdf (161,649 Bytes) transcript of pdf
McCarty at NAS 5/15/73
Description:
These are notes that Lederberg took from Maclyn McCarty's lecture at the National Academy of Sciences in 1973. McCarty spoke extensively of his work in Avery's lab in the 1940s.
Item is handwritten.
Number of Image Pages:
3 (161,649 Bytes)
Date:
1973-05-15 (May 15, 1973)
Creator:
Lederberg, Joshua
Rights:
This item is in the public domain. It may be used without permission.
Subject:
Medical Subject Headings (MeSH):
History of Medicine
Exhibit Category:
After the Discovery: The Transforming Principle's Reception by the Scientific Community
Box Number: 5
Folder Number: 2
Unique Identifier:
CCAALB
Document Type:
Notes
Language:
English
Format:
application/pdf
image/tif
Physical Condition:
Good
Series: Commentary on Avery and His Work, 1944-2005
SubSeries: Inquiries on Avery
Folder: Lederberg Inquiries, 1962, 1972-1978
Transcript:
McCarty at NAS
5/15/73
Mac McCarty
Avery's files
(left in 48
(cleaned out his files
lectures
unpublished talks
O.T. Avery: systematically discarded his own files.
"curious fellow"
Pres Bact Soc. address - worked for weeks.
Balto. 1941. / No reference to transforming factor.
not published. / nothing on record. "nothing till he was ready".
"Dec '43" (or late Nov.) paper s[ . . . ] in 11/43.
needed to be punished.
[ . . . ]: Al Coburn; Heidelburger;
Didn't hear until Spring '45 that Harriet would come (in fall).
? doubt Mirskey/Pollisky. Th[ . . . ]
no recollection of any Columbia people.
early '46 / Mirsky party / Rhoades / "You might not think you're doing genetics by you are"
Hershey, Pa Fall '45 / Childs Fund /
Jesse Owenstein instigated - asked Avery (DNAses) [sic]
[END PAGE ONE]
[BEGIN PAGE TWO]
Would Mac go instead of Avery.
(? '46)
"almost pathological. "
Dawson: R <-> S. work.
in 40's.
Fess said: immediately skeptical
Dawson: all set to go. & repeated it [ . . . ] away.
Avery was already senior person in group.
Dawson - d[ . . . ] to Avery.
(Dubos may have been too critical)
Alloway[?]: Avery was deeply involved.
found pH^2 [ . . . ]ability.
Red Seal Records
? don't know
Avery was "there" but not working untl [sic] circa 1934
operation was mid 30's
hypothyroid circa 1933. '34.
His papers: deada ended.
monologues - "stylized" - polys[ . . . ] capsule transform story
stereotyped statements.
(recollections of oral statements")
[END PAGE TWO]
[BEGIN PAGE THREE]
pathological about being [ . . . ]
esp re hypotheses.
"nothing should have any chance of being wrong, "
Av. Re[ . . . ]: writes of "lack of anti[ . . . ]ty" (Meant only special case of [ . . . ] rabbit)
bioch baby[?]. / as m[ . . . ].) conc. on nature of culture[?]
lab discussions: "what was it":
[Knight was trying to change T[ . . . ] was it protein or NA?]
Mirsky or Starsky - scotched[?] Avery.
C[ . . . ]n - "didn't get it" [Schultz and [ . . . ]]
"fractionate a crude[?] extent" what it means today and then.
Mac didn't know being[?] of pre-[ . . . ] on my own history.
Would like to find time to menion [sic] it. May had had started but only lab notes are available
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