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The Michael Heidelberger Papers

Letter from Elvin A. Kabat to Michael Heidelberger pdf (327,634 Bytes) transcript of pdf
Letter from Elvin A. Kabat to Michael Heidelberger
Kabat, Heidelberger's first graduate student at Columbia, went to the University of Upsala in Sweden in 1937 to use the university's newly-developed ultracentrifuge to type and determine the size of antibody globulins in horse and rabbit antipneumococcal sera, which had been prepared by Heidelberger. In this letter Kabat reported results of his studies, and gave an account of his travels and his meetings with several European colleagues.
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23 November 1937
Kabat, Elvin A.
Heidelberger, Michael
Reproduced with permission of Jon Kabat-Zinn.
Medical Subject Headings (MeSH):
Immune Sera
Molecular Weight
Exhibit Category:
Antigens and Antibodies: Heidelberger and The Rise of Quantitative Immunochemistry, 1928-1954
Metadata Record Letter from Elvin A. Kabat to Michael Heidelberger [22 July 1938] pdf (115,040 Bytes) transcript of pdf
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Letters (correspondence)
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Folder: MS C 245 (first finding aid)
July 22
Dear Dr. Heidelberger:
I certainly seem to be learning things very rapidly on my trips--especially about the limitations of the centrifuge methods. Unfortunately there was very little discussion about assumptions etc at Upsala, so I was not at all aware of any uncertainty in giving the values found as the true molecular weight. Bernal, MacFarlane and Pirie, however, have pointed out the fact very definitely, that S and D can only be used to calculate M for a rigid aphysical particle, and in these cases f/f0 should be 1.0. In all other cases of asymmetric or non-compact molecules one cannot assume M equals RTs divided by D times(1 minus PV) to hold since one gets an oriented sedimentation and hence viscosity effects due to the sliding of one molecule along another--whether this is eliminated by running the S concentration curve and extrapolating to zero protein concentration, I have not as yet considered thoroughly. I am convinced, however, that with the horse, cow, and pig having f/f0 of 2.0 ie molecule 25x as long as it is wide and rabbit, monkey and human f/f0 equals 1.5 ie molecule ca 10x as long as wide, that the actual molecular weights are meaningless and I think I shall have to be much more cautious in the statements about molecular weight. The bulk of the data, is of course just as important without a true molecular weight figure.
I don't think I mentioned but in the two Ea antisera studied
in the inhibition zone, I found the same ratio of Abmg divided by Eamg in the compound independent of the amount of excess Ea
with 160,000 and 40,000 for the mol. wt., this gives Ea3Ab2. The sedimentation constants of the two compounds formed are ca 8.7, 11.3 and one much too low for such an empirical formula. In view of my talks with the English workers, I am not sure whether it would not be very rash to assume 160,000 for M and that perhaps the ratio might be 1:1 which would be more reasonable.
In any case, apparently Bernal is the only person able to calculate a true molecular weight for an asymmetric molecule from X Ray patterns. I have watched his technic for dried fileus[?] to orient the molecules and it would be very easy for us to send of fileus[?] of antibody and polysaccharide for him to study. He would be very much interested in doing so.
From my conversations with Adair, I am very much surprised that the osmotic pressure method is not in routine use in every lab for molecular weight determinations. I think that it would be very great interest to measure the mol. wt of the two types of antibody in this manner for comparison with the centrifuge. It requires so little time and attention, that perhaps we could do something about it when I get back. A central [. . .] the centrifuge to see it we had homogeneous products would be necessary.
I have been trying to convince Pirie that quantitative precipitives[?] would be of use in his work, but he says that all the junk in the tobacco juice comes down with the precipitate.
I read Shaffer and Duigel's[?] paper but am not convinced that our degraded antibody explains their results.
I am not going to send any of the three papers off, until you have gone over them. I haven't got all the figures yet, but if I get them soon, I'll send you the first two.
I hope you are having a very pleasant summer. Best wishes to Mrs. Heidelberger and Charlie.
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