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The Michael Heidelberger Papers

Letter from Charles D. Hurd, Northwestern University to Michael Heidelberger pdf (182,231 Bytes) transcript of pdf
Letter from Charles D. Hurd, Northwestern University to Michael Heidelberger
Heidelberger had helped to synthesize cyclooctatetraene, the next higher analog of benzene (consisting of a ring with eight carbon atoms and four double bonds) during a year of postdoctoral study (1911-12) in the laboratory of the 1915 Nobel Laureate, Richard Willstatter, at the Federal Polytechnic Institute in Zurich, Switzerland. His research with Willstatter on cyclooctatetraene was controversial, and was questioned as late as the 1940s by Hugh S. Taylor and Charles D. Hurd. Heidelberger, however, strongly defended his results, as documented in this letter, pointing out that while Taylor and Hurd showed that cyclooctatetraene resinifies and degrades at high temperatures, he had worked in cold temperatures continuously for 24 hours to synthesize a colorless liquid that was both stable and reactive. Heidelberger and Willstatter's results stood, and as a consequence of their work cyclooctatetraene became a widely used intermediate in organic chemistry.
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1939-11-29 (November 29, 1939)
Hurd, Charles D.
Northwestern University
Heidelberger, Michael
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Chemistry, Organic
Exhibit Category:
The Making of an Immunologist: Heidelberger's Years at the Rockefeller Institute, 1912-1927
Metadata Record Letter from Michael Heidelberger to Hugh S. Taylor, Princeton University (September 9, 1939) pdf (30,132 Bytes) transcript of pdf
Metadata Record Letter from Hugh S. Taylor, Princeton University to Michael Heidelberger (November 4, 1939) pdf (106,320 Bytes) transcript of pdf
Metadata Record Letter from Michael Heidelberger to Hugh S. Taylor, Princeton University (November 7, 1939) pdf (53,023 Bytes) transcript of pdf
Metadata Record Letter from Michael Heidelberger to Charles D. Hurd, Northwestern University (November 8, 1939) pdf (120,729 Bytes) transcript of pdf
Metadata Record Letter from Richard Willstatter to Michael Heidelberger (March 27, 1940) pdf (63,699 Bytes)
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November 29, 1939
Dear Dr. Heidelberger:
My delay in answering your letter of the 8th has not been caused from lack of interest, I assure you. Thank you for writing me.
I agree with you that the work on cyclooctatetraene was carefully done. What is more, it reads convincingly, but it does seem to me that the argument has loop-holes, some of which I mentioned in the paper.
The narrow boiling range (0.5 degrees) which you mentioned cannot be leaned on too heavily for isomeric dibromides should boil pretty closely together.
You mention that different effects might have been encountered at pyrolysis temperatures of 200-250 degrees than at 100-150 degrees. Perhaps so, but I doubt it because no comparable rearrangements occur with other unsaturated hydrocarbons till much higher temperatures are reached. 1-Butene is fairly stable at 500 degrees, and rearrangement into 2-butene starts at 600-650 degrees (Hurd and Goldsby, J. Am. Chem. Soc., 56, 1813 (1934)). Similarly, 600 degrees is the temperature required to initiate the rearrangement of 1 - into 2-pentene (Hurd, Goodyear, and Goldsby, ibid., 58, 235 (1936)). Rearrangement of 1-alkynes into 1, 2-alkadienes does not occur at 400 degrees, but requires temperatures which are high enough to break the hydrocarbon otherwise into smaller molecules (Hurd and Christ, ibid., 59, 2161 (1937)). These were experiments with 1-heptyne, 1-hexyne and 1-butyne. With the butyne, it was proven that no 1, 3-butadiene came even at 56 degrees Celsius. Hence I feel that anywhere between 100-300 degrees would be safe temperatures insofar as subsequent rearrangements are concerned when dealing with 1, 2-butadiene, 1, 3-butadiene, or 1- or 2-butyne.
You point out that our X was a 1, 2-diquaternary compound whereas Willstatter's VII (in our paper) was not. That is a good criticism and one that I had thought of. Nothing would be gained by taking the 1, 4-isomer that you suggested, however, namely, HOONMe3-CH2-CH2CH2NMe3OH, because 1, 3-butadiene is the only possibility here. If the C6-analog were taken, CH3-NMe3-CHCH2CH2NMe3OH-CHCH3, I feel sure that it would pyrolyze to the mixture of 1, 5 -, 1, 4 -, and 2, 4- hexadienes the last of which is the only conjugated one. Of course this mixture would involve greater analytical difficulties than the C4 - analogs. Also, the original synthesis would be harder.
There is one experiment more convincing than any of these that I would like to have tried, namely, the pyrolysis of CH3NMe3OH-CH = CH2.
With one double bond already in place this would be quite analogous to Willstatter's VII. The difficulty here is the fact that the halide, CH3CHBrCH=CH2, from which the hydroxide would be made is so unstable, yielding CH3CH=CHCH2Br. The base corresponding to the latter should pyrolyze exclusively to methylallene, whereas the desired isomer might pyrolyze either to methylallene or 1, 3-butadiene. The experiment, therefore, would be inconclusive.
The best escape from this dilemma, and it is an experiment I have planned to do for a long time, is to take the C5-analog. If CH3CHBrCH=CHCH3 rearranges, the product is still the same compound. Hence, the base, CH3CH(NMe3OH)-CH=CHCH3, should be obtainable pure. It should yield either 1,3- or 2,3-pentadiene or both. A mixture of the two pentadienes could be separated by means of maleic anhydride, so the approach seems fairly definite.
I shall be pleased to keep you advised of further developments. Thank you ever so much for your helpful suggestions.
Very sincerely yours,
Charles D. Hurd
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